tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post115093706316642578..comments2023-11-02T19:46:44.577+11:00Comments on Fumbling Towards Geekdom: Barbie says, "Conferences are fun!"StyleyGeekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10287051608503966129noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post-1151163019011670392006-06-25T01:30:00.000+10:002006-06-25T01:30:00.000+10:00I remember a while back reading some academic blok...I remember a while back reading some academic bloke's blog in which he talked about a new member of his faculty who happened to be a woman. This bloke said that he hadn't thought of himself as particularly feminist or anything like that, but when the new faculty member got patted on the head by an older male faculty member he surprised himself by thinking, "If I were a woman, I would be angry ALL THE TIME."<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think that as women we should be allowed to be angry QUITE A LOT. <BR/><BR/>(The rest of the time we should just keep quiet and give the idiots enough rope to hang themselves.)Badaunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13421084688117792172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post-1151019982781900942006-06-23T09:46:00.000+10:002006-06-23T09:46:00.000+10:00Thanks, Lucy. I should have been bitchier to him ...Thanks, Lucy. I should have been bitchier to him than I was, then. I just said, "Not. really. the point." in a snarky tone. But I wasn't 100% sure that you couldn't use "blokes" in a gender-non-specific way, so didn't want to be too rude.<BR/><BR/>And Jana, I don't think that you can tell from that "turn it around" test, since doing that with "guys" to "gals" or similar gives you a gender-specific term, while "guys" for some people isn't. But with Lucy's Australian perspective telling us the 'blokes' CAN'T be gender non-specific, then your "wow all the sheilas" does correspond well. <BR/><BR/>And ick. Ick.StyleyGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10287051608503966129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post-1150988438729124162006-06-23T01:00:00.000+10:002006-06-23T01:00:00.000+10:00Lucy - I agree with you. If you think of it the ot...Lucy - I agree with you. If you think of it the other way around, and imagine a man being told after a speech that he'll "wow all the sheilas", I think it becomes obvious how sexist the original remark is.Nicolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13330366795341751766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post-1150982761309540562006-06-22T23:26:00.000+10:002006-06-22T23:26:00.000+10:00I think it's definitely sexist. I've never heard ...I think it's definitely sexist. I've never heard anyone use blokes in a non-gender specific way, and my stereotypical view of the type of person who's likely to use the word at all is sexist to begin with (given that the female version is "sheila"). Ick.Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09150532491859766021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post-1150978472882246672006-06-22T22:14:00.000+10:002006-06-22T22:14:00.000+10:00Yeah, we need some Australians to weigh in. But I...Yeah, we need some Australians to weigh in. But I think you are both most likely right. Sigh.StyleyGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10287051608503966129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20717535.post-1150948253352560302006-06-22T13:50:00.000+10:002006-06-22T13:50:00.000+10:00I read it as a totally sexist statement - but it m...I read it as a totally sexist statement - but it may not be, as you point out.shrinkykittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02621222815636493783noreply@blogger.com